Wiring for 3 zone cymbal, with piezo bell

[MWJT42]

This might have already be discussed in another thread, apologies, but I'm struggling to find details.

In a piezo-bell, piezo-bow, switch-edge setup, what is eDRUMin expecting?

Is it 2 inputs (one bow / edge stereo, and one bell mono) or is there a way of wiring it like the 3 zone Yamaha cymbal on one cable?

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Thanks.

[Rob]

Input 1: Tip: Bow Piezo, Ring: Switch
Input 2: Ring: Bell Piezo

[MWJT42]

Input 1: Tip: Bow Piezo, Ring: Switch
Input 2: Ring: Bell Piezo

Thanks Rob.

I presume Bell could also be on the tip, for a dual mono splitter?

And its up to the VSTi to distinguish between bell and bow/edge hits?

(Or can the 2 be triggered simultaneously in SD3?)

[Rob]

No, the bell piezo needs to be on the ring. At this point in time, the tip is completely ignored. Maybe a few versions down the road this will be an option, but it's not a priority.

[MWJT42]

No, the bell piezo needs to be on the ring. At this point in time, the tip is completely ignored.

Sorry Rob, I'm thoroughly confused...

How do well tell eDRUMin this ring input is a ride bell?

Is it set as a completely separate dual zone cymbal, with a midi note that outputs as ride bell?

Or

Is it somehow linked to the dual zone ride bow and edge?

Also,

Can this ring input be used dual mono, with a splitter, so we can make use of the tip with another pad? (single zone splash for example)

Thanks.

[Rob]

There is a 3 Zone Metal cymbal pad type. Use that. It will automatically put the second input into bell mode.

[AKA Wayne]

I have my bell on the tip. I just set my ride to a dual zone switch/piezo and set the bell input to regular cymbal. I turned up the threshold on the bell and it seemed to work pretty well. Haven’t tested it a bunch yet.

[MWJT42]

There is a 3 Zone Metal cymbal pad type. Use that. It will automatically put the second input into bell mode.

Amazing!

Can I use a splitter on the 2nd input, to make use of another pad in Dual Mono mode?

[Rob]

No. As I said previously, at this point the tip of the bell input is completely ignored. Allowing a bell input to be used in Dual Mono will surely be a bug ridden process and it's not something I want to tackle right now.

[AKA Wayne]

I’m about to wire up my bell piezo for my 3 zone metal cymbal. Do I need Neg on sleeve and pos on ring? Or does it matter? Thanks!