Zildjian LV converted test

[TheJay]

So I have updated but am not getting consistent bell triggers on the ride using the new metal cymbaI three input. I have tried calibrating.

Do you have any advice?

[Polyphonics]

Hi, not wanting to interrupt any chat but I need some proper drummers' opinions here

Do you guys feel that metal LV cymbals are worth it? Do they feel better to play than rubber/plastic cymbals?

[TheJay]

Definitely

[TheJay]

Why wouldn't you want the most natural feeling, vibration/triggering and movement?

[Mylo]

Hi, not wanting to interrupt any chat but I need some proper drummers' opinions here

Do you guys feel that metal LV cymbals are worth it? Do they feel better to play than rubber/plastic cymbals?

IMO.. no. I have them all right now. Nothing compares to the silky smoothness of hitting the real thing. Hit a real cymbal with your tip and you barely feel any vibration coming back through the stick. But we can’t use the real thing.

I’ve had Jobeky’s LV and Real Feel metal cymbals, FIELD cymbals and now ATV rubber cymbals. All of them send vibrations back through the stick that can actually be uncomfortable after a couple of hours of playing. But the metal cymbals do feel slightly better over the ATV rubber. The ATV rubber is actually pretty hard and doesn’t absorb the stick hit like a real acoustic cymbal so you get a lot of stick vibration feedback.

The Jobeky’s real feel feels like hitting hard plastic. It is deadened so much it might has well be plastic. The FIELD cymbals deaden theirs differently so they don’t sound as plastic and feel pretty good when hit.

To me it comes down to trigger abilities. Which is why I’m moving to rubber from metal even though I like the look of metal better. And right now triggering on rubber still beats metal. I don’t think that will always be the case.

Plus hitting metal (not LV) is loud. 20dB louder over rubber in all my testing. My Jobeky’s come in at 95dB when crashed. Rubber is around 75dB.

[Rob]

So I have updated but am not getting consistent bell triggers on the ride using the new metal cymbaI three input. I have tried calibrating.

Do you have any advice?

Did you use the metal 3 Zone pad type? Did you adjust the bell thresh control?

[lalo]

These are my settings, try them, remember to position the cymbal so you don't hit it above the sensor.

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[lalo]

Hi, not wanting to interrupt any chat but I need some proper drummers' opinions here

Do you guys feel that metal LV cymbals are worth it? Do they feel better to play than rubber/plastic cymbals?

IMO.. no. I have them all right now. Nothing compares to the silky smoothness of hitting the real thing. Hit a real cymbal with your tip and you barely feel any vibration coming back through the stick. But we can’t use the real thing.

I’ve had Jobeky’s LV and Real Feel metal cymbals, FIELD cymbals and now ATV rubber cymbals. All of them send vibrations back through the stick that can actually be uncomfortable after a couple of hours of playing. But the metal cymbals do feel slightly better over the ATV rubber. The ATV rubber is actually pretty hard and doesn’t absorb the stick hit like a real acoustic cymbal so you get a lot of stick vibration feedback.

The Jobeky’s real feel feels like hitting hard plastic. It is deadened so much it might has well be plastic. The FIELD cymbals deaden theirs differently so they don’t sound as plastic and feel pretty good when hit.

To me it comes down to trigger abilities. Which is why I’m moving to rubber from metal even though I like the look of metal better. And right now triggering on rubber still beats metal. I don’t think that will always be the case.

Plus hitting metal (not LV) is loud. 20dB louder over rubber in all my testing. My Jobeky’s come in at 95dB when crashed. Rubber is around 75dB.

I hated the ATV feeling, noisy as well, I prefer low volume cymbals to real ones dampened because they are quieter, I don't hear the stick noise with my closed headphones, with the atv I still heard the plock plock...
Only thing that draw me to the atv was their size, 14 hats and 18 ride, that said if roland released a 18" ride (analog) and 14" hat I'd be first in line to buy them...

[Polyphonics]

The Jobeky’s real feel feels like hitting hard plastic. It is deadened so much it might has well be plastic. The FIELD cymbals deaden theirs differently so they don’t sound as plastic and feel pretty good when hit.

To me it comes down to trigger abilities. Which is why I’m moving to rubber from metal even though I like the look of metal better. And right now triggering on rubber still beats metal. I don’t think that will always be the case.

Thanks for the detailed response, it's hard for me to tell as I don't own an acoustic and haven't played them enough.

It's interesting that you went back to rubber as I have done the same temporarily because my jobeky cymbals just weren't triggering well at all and felt like a chore to hit.

I'm looking at these field cymbals now and they seem very interesting, if any of them have PCY wiring then I might consider the investment. But you believe that fields are still just not quite there? Maybe we should find someone to test them on the new beta firmware.

[TheJay]

That's Jobeky for you... What a Jobek! Even China has quality control. If you complain, they either ignore you if via email or if public they set their Pitbull on you.