What triggers works best with eDRUMin?

[alder]

I've just ordered the ED10 and now I'm thinking about upgrading my DIY snare with a center mounted trigger. I'm looking at Jobeky trigger bars right now, but are there any other options I should consider?

[lalo]

What's your budget? the best are from R-drums in Germany but they cost 150€ a piece...

[alder]

What's your budget? the best are from R-drums in Germany but they cost 150€ a piece...

That’s a bit steep... Jobeky’s about 45 euro, so I’m hoping to find something in that ballpark I guess. Or less of course...

[MWJT42]

Or less of course...

I've just ordered 3 of these from goedrum instead of the Jobeky or Triggera, which worked out less than £20 each with postage.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192055924649

At the end of the day a piezo is a piezo, so it's only the mounting, foam, wiring and socket that's different (correct me if I'm wrong...) and these look pretty good. I have other goedrum equipment too, and it's great.

Will report back how I get on when they arrive.


In terms of how edrumin will perform with different triggers, its so good at accommodating all types of inputs, I don't think that's a consideration anymore. I currently have 3 DIY triggers (wood, glue, foam, bad soldering...) and I can dial them in well enough, so anything not made by me, should perform excellently!

[Mylo]

I have Jobeky AI triggers and they are center mounted. I clarify that because the ones I have you can actually slide the piezo mount along the bar and move it more towards the edge if you want to. Too far from the center though and you may need another bolt to hold it all together.

As for triggering, the head piezo is great. It is extremely sensitive and gives the eDRUMin plenty of signal to process. The rim triggers are where, for me, they can fall short. My snare, 8”, 10” and 16” toms work well. But the 12” and two 14” toms seem to be less sensitive. I have to really work on them to dial them in. This could be on me and my setup Or just some weird characteristics of a 12” and 14” toms and picking up vibrations through the shell who knows. But I still highly recommend the Jobeky AI triggers.

Also... I use a full input for each drum, I’m not using edge sense, so I get center, rim and rim shot on all drums. And with a properly tightened head PS on my snare is working very well with SD3.

[alder]

Or less of course...

I've just ordered 3 of these from goedrum instead of the Jobeky or Triggera, which worked out less than £20 each with postage.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192055924649

At the end of the day a piezo is a piezo, so it's only the mounting, foam, wiring and socket that's different (correct me if I'm wrong...) and these look pretty good. I have other goedrum equipment too, and it's great.

Will report back how I get on when they arrive.


In terms of how edrumin will perform with different triggers, its so good at accommodating all types of inputs, I don't think that's a consideration anymore. I currently have 3 DIY triggers (wood, glue, foam, bad soldering...) and I can dial them in well enough, so anything not made by me, should perform excellently!

As long as I don't have to solder, I'm no stranger to more DIY. But those are side mounted?

[alder]

I have Jobeky AI triggers and they are center mounted. I clarify that because the ones I have you can actually slide the piezo mount along the bar and move it more towards the edge if you want to. Too far from the center though and you may need another bolt to hold it all together.

As for triggering, the head piezo is great. It is extremely sensitive and gives the eDRUMin plenty of signal to process. The rim triggers are where, for me, they can fall short. My snare, 8”, 10” and 16” toms work well. But the 12” and two 14” toms seem to be less sensitive. I have to really work on them to dial them in. This could be on me and my setup Or just some weird characteristics of a 12” and 14” toms and picking up vibrations through the shell who knows. But I still highly recommend the Jobeky AI triggers.

Also... I use a full input for each drum, I’m not using edge sense, so I get center, rim and rim shot on all drums. And with a properly tightened head PS on my snare is working very well with SD3.

I guess placement of the shell trigger may be critical? Next guess is that somewhere between the spots for rim clicks and rim shots would be the best place for them?

[MWJT42]

But those are side mounted?

Yes, I decided to go side mounted for my toms, to eliminate hot spotting completely.

Single zone too as I don't use the rims, but I think edrumin's Edge Sense might still work?? Not sure if that requires centrally mounted though...

[dsteinschneider]

Center mounted piezos work very well. The hot spot reduction is effective. In typical playing it eliminates that sudden full on snare hit when your playing quieter. I think what's important for center mounted piezos is a very rigid mount structure.

The more expensive solutions have a hub and spoke design with the rim piezo mounted on the same plate the spokes connect to and a second vibration isolated plate above that holds the cone that meets the mesh head.

Less expensive solutions like Jobeky and UFO Drums use a very stiff steel bar with adjustable mounts for the cone. I have the UFO Drums triggers, the kick drum kit is particularly good because Mitch selected a big foam beater "pillow" and the channel steel he uses is very robust. He uses rubber washers to isolate the bar from the shell vibrations.