Choosing the right triggers

[Duxter]

Hello there, new user here

My situation, a little bit of background:
I'm currently planning out my A2E conversion kit. I already bought the drum shells and some Drum-Tec real feel 3-ply mesh heads. As i reconsidered every step of the conversion once more i stumbled upon eDRUMin interfaces and fell in love with them. They really seem like the best option for my purpose (i'm not opposed to using a laptop and i'm ready for a deep dive in trigger settings and so on).

The first question (tom-triggers):
On my quest to find the right triggers so far i really like the Jobeky triggers. I planned to use a bassdrum trigger (22''), Jobeky side-triggers for my three toms (12'', 13'' and 16'') and for my 14'' Snare i originally opted for the newer Jobeky Multi-Point-Trigger (the 4-Cone Version as i have an 8 lug Snare). Now as i scanned through the forum i stumbled upon mixed opinions on Jobeky triggers. On one hand side some people said that Jobeky triggers are waayy too hot to trigger smoothly and on the other hand side i saw them listed (except the bass drum trigger) on the unofficial 'works just fine'-list. Now i'm confused and not ready to spend a couple more hours trying to research when i can just ask
Am i going to run into trouble with choosing Jobeky? I saw some Quartz Percussion recommendations but i'd rather not build the triggers myself (and i'm located in EU, i'd like to shop here too).

The second question (cymbals):
I currently own a Millenium MPS-750X eDrum kit that i'm going to sell after i put together my new A2E kit. As i'm sufficiently happy with the Ride and the Crash i would like to repurchase them. There are options to buy them specifically for Roland, Pearl, ATV, Alesis und Gewa. So i assume they would pose no trouble when connecting them to the eDrumin 8? The hi-hat should be no problem since i'll buy a VH10.. But does anyone have experience with Millenium cymbals? If they work they'd be IMO the best bang for the buck option.

Outro:
I really hope in finding some useful information here, this forum seems like a nice place
Looking forward to some good conversations

Cheers
Duxter

P.S.
Seems like if i want positional sensing on the Snare i should go with a centre mounted trigger instead of the multi cone. That would be fine by me although i would like to stay with Jobeky

[Duxter]

Welp... Couldn't help but look further in the forums...

Just noticed that in the 'show us your builds' thread there are a couple of Jobeky triggered kits to be found. I guess that partially answers the first question so that Jobeky triggers are fine. And i assume that a centre mounted Snare trigger would yield better results.

Anyway, i'm still looking forward to some replies and confirmations as i don't want to throw my money down the drain.

Cheers
Duxter

[Krlu]

Hi, assuming the mps 750 cymbals are the same as for the mps1000, I can confirm full compatibilty. You need to use Yamaha 3 zone style for the ride to get bell sense to work, and invert the edge/bell in the software (thanks Rob). As for the millenium hi hat I have not tested this since I use a roland vh13 (as I understand you will be doing something similar). Best of luck PS, I am also considering building something with Jobeky triggers…

Edit: I see now that 750 and 1000 don’t share the same cymbals, but at least you now that the mps 1000’s work

[Duxter]

Hey Krlu
Thanks for the reply.
As for the cymbals i am least concerned. I went for the cymbals from Millenium that are made specifically for Roland etc. modules (you can choose between Millenium and 'Roland, Pearl, ATV, Alesis und Gewa'). Now that you've mentioned that you use Yamaha wiring for the Ride i assume that Millenium uses Yamaha wiring all together. And the cymbals made for other brands is the same but just inverted wiring.

As i just received my eDRUMin 8 yesterday (yay!!) i will start to set up my kit today and will update this post on compatibility and my results. The last thing I'm waiting for is the Millenium Crash cymbal as it has problems with the delivery.

Maybe i will try to set up my MPS 750 with the eDRUMin for science's sake. Then i could confirm quite a lot of 'off brand' material

Cheers
Duxter

[fconstan]

Hey Krlu,

Can you confirm the MSP hi-hat included in the MSP1000 is fully compatible with eDRUMin ?
Do you know the difference between this one: https://www.thomann.de/fr/millenium_ch_ ... at_pad.htm and that one: https://www.thomann.de/fr/millenium_ch_ ... #bewertung ?

Same question with the msp1000 ride, is the 18" ride fully compatible with eDRUMin? Any chance you know the difference between the https://www.thomann.de/fr/millenium_cr_ ... al_pad.htm and https://www.thomann.de/fr/millenium_cr_ ... al_pad.htm? I assume there is something related to the wiring...

Many thanks for your help!

Flo

[Duxter]

Hey there

I can confirm most of the functionality. But first things first:
You asked for the difference between the two Hats or the two Rides. Both of the have the same difference. In the description you can see that one version is for the MPS Series/ Millenium Branded modules. The other version of the same cymbal is for most other brands. This means they're both identical products except for the wiring. I had a crash cymbal from my old MPS-750X lying around and got basically all functionality out of it. But i had to adjust it to 'Yamaha wiring' in the eDRUMin. For my new kit i went with the Roland wired 18'' Millenium ride. As it is made for Roland (and other) modules i didn't have to activate the Yamaha wiring mode.

On to the compatibility... I find it satisfactory for my needs. But i guess they're quite low. The crash, bow and choke works perfectly fine (those are the features i value the most) but the bell isn't perfect. I didn't invest a lot of time into setting up the bell sense feature of my eDRUMin since i don't prioritise the bell much. I have no clue if Millenium has a similar system in place to read the bell hits as the bell sense feature or if they build something entirely different into their modules.

The conclusion of my ramblings... The Millenium crash 15'' is a fantastic bang for the buck cymbal as i don't use the bell at all. The Ride is great if you don't use the bell that much (maybe you could get away with loosing the crash function and setting up the bell better but idk..). If you want a near perfect Ride you should go with a 2-connector Ride in my opinion (the Millenium Roland style Ride has one connector). As for the hats.... i would assume they work just as fine or better as with a regular Millenium module. As far as my research online went there's nothing that beats Roland Hats so i bought one. But i didn't connect my Millenium Hats to the eDRUMin.

I hope it helps!
Cheers
Duxter

[RxMan]

Good morning,
I have an MPS850 and I am going to recover some elements to connect them to an edrumin 8.
Can you confirm that the crash cymbal mute function works with edrumin.
I'm trying to find information on the MPS850 hit-hat controller to know if it is compatible with edrumin, but I can't find anything on this subject... Could you help me?

[fconstan]

Thanks Duxter for your precise informations.

Based on that video, the hi hat seems a bit more tricky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9274cDI ... nK.Y.Drums

I will keep you updated.

Cheers

[fconstan]

Hey there,

At the end I found a relatively cheap second hand VH-11 and CY-15R, I am having challenges with eDRUMin on Linux at the moment but I will find out.

Cheers

[andurillek]

Good morning,
I have an MPS850 and I am going to recover some elements to connect them to an edrumin 8.
Can you confirm that the crash cymbal mute function works with edrumin.
I'm trying to find information on the MPS850 hit-hat controller to know if it is compatible with edrumin, but I can't find anything on this subject... Could you help me?

Hi, I have an older version of the MPS-850 and I'm running it with eDrumin 10. Everything works, hihats are fine, cymbals work even with damping. The new version has an improved hihat, but I assume that if it works with the same module, it will also work with eDrumin.
I think almost everything works with eDrumin...