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two drums hit at the exact same time cutting each other off

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:50 pm
by phillwilson
I seen to have a strange issue...

if I hit two drums (im useing an edrumin 4 with 2box triggit sensors) at the exact same time, sometimes, one of the hits is not registering...I am trying this at quite a few velocities and it seems to be equally likely to happen no matter if I am playing soft, medium or hard.

I have connected a midi monitor whilst hitting and I can clearly see that when hitting two drums at the exact same time, for example, my snare and rack tom ( inputs 2 and 3) there is probability of about a 1 in every 5 hits one will not register that any midi hit has been sent.

its like one is cancelling out the other.

if only one or the other is hit, I dont see any drop out from either when hit on its own, only when two are hit together..as if one is choking the other.

any ideas?

Re: two drums hit at the exact same time cutting each other off

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:09 pm
by Rob
Glad to see your device is working properly! Try adjusting the xtalk controsl below the gain slider

Re: two drums hit at the exact same time cutting each other off

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:34 pm
by phillwilson
thanks for such a quick reply,

sorry is this is a dumb question.. if I am looking for the ability to have two drums be triggered at exactly the same time WITHOUT cutting each other off.. should I be aiming for LOW X-talk values or High ones ideally?

Re: two drums hit at the exact same time cutting each other off

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:57 pm
by phillwilson
also, just to be clear, I am talking about not being able to play two drums at the same time ( one midi note being repressed even though i hit both drums as similar force) , i am not talking about hitting one drum and having a different drum trigger, just in case there is any confusion.

Re: two drums hit at the exact same time cutting each other off

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:45 am
by Rob
Rereading my reply, I came off as a jerk--sorry. Increasing the crosstalk level, increases the chance that a double hit won't succeed. The crosstalk control is well covered in the manual. I'll point you there.
Crosstalk Cancellation

Re: two drums hit at the exact same time cutting each other off

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:36 pm
by phillwilson
Thats no worries at all Rob and thank you for the follow up reply, I think that will arm me with everything I need to know.

My Edrumin4 is from the very early 3d printer generation so I don't think I have ever seen this manual before, the videos were awesome but only got me so far ,

Also, to be fair, I am using MY edrumin i for a very non standard use ( I am co-designing a means of turning drum trigger data into midi to drive melodic synths...so my usage case is on the periphery of the general designed features, so I wasn't sure if what I needed was even possible.

all the best

Phill