Hotspot not detected

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Sly
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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MWJT42 wrote:
Sly wrote:
MWJT42 wrote:Post some pics and we'll help you get this resolved.

For reference, I have a AI trigger bar on a 14x5 snare, with a DrumTec Real Feel head and couldn't be happier with it.

Hot spot is non-existent and the positional sensing, rimshot and side stick triggers flawlessly. Only issue I had was the screws coming loose holding the bar, which I resolved with some Locktite
So if you both have the same trigger, quite the same head, the same module, what is different ?

Drum size are the Same ? both 14' ?
I can't imagine the drum shell to have such a influence...

You should export your setting to give it to thenewdrummer...
Excellent idea!

How do I do that?
It is well explained in the manual p23
thenewdrummer
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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So I'm back with the quartz trigger and it's way better. The Jobeky was way too hot. (I'll have one to sell :D)


The hotspot are almost gone except with a little bit harder hits in the middle or if I do flams in the middle. I assume that this is maybe normal?

Maybe I can fix it a little bit with reducing the top right of the velocity curve.
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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Is there a way to lower the gain on the rim piezo but not the head?

I'm not able to fix it with the little graph otherwise I wouldn't have a rimshot range.

I'm pretty sure the gain is way too hot for the rim and it triggers rim instead of the head.
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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thenewdrummer wrote:Is there a way to lower the gain on the rim piezo but not the head?

I'm not able to fix it with the little graph otherwise I wouldn't have a rimshot range.

I'm pretty sure the gain is way too hot for the rim and it triggers rim instead of the head.
Not in the software, but a trim pot can help.

However, edrumin is well designed to accommodate rim piezos, so it's unlikely that you'll be able to make it work in the software.

Post a screenshot of your snare settings.
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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I still get rim click sometime when I hit harder in the middle ( the head range I think is way too high)
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Rob
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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You're getting double triggering. Increase your hold time / relax the decay a bit. I'm actually surprised to the see the ring piezo still picking up vibrations so long after the hit.
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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Rob wrote:You're getting double triggering. Increase your hold time / relax the decay a bit. I'm actually surprised to the see the ring piezo still picking up vibrations so long after the hit.
Wow nice, now it's better. Thanks a lot for your help.

Just for information, how did you see the double triggering from the image above?


Also there's a information that I didn't find in documentation or I missed it but in the Rimshot Range setting there's a horizontal bar that can be adjusted, what is it for? (not the vertical ones to adjust the sections)
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Well, you said it was a hard hit on the center, yet the image above is showing the transient for a very low velocity hit, so I just assumed it was the result of double triggering.
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And the horizontal section is the minimum velocity (of the head piezo) required to trigger a rimshot. If you find that the rimshot is triggered when hitting just the rim of the pad, increasing that horizontal bar can fix that.
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Re: Hotspot not detected

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Rob wrote:Well, you said it was a hard hit on the center, yet the image above is showing the transient for a very low velocity hit, so I just assumed it was the result of double triggering.
Hehe it was a random hit only for switching the input to print my settings. But you got it anyway :)
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