Hi-Hat 101

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rrv24
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Hi-Hat 101

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Hi all!

I just purchased an eDrumin (hasn't arrived yet) as I setup a hybrid kit with rubber cymbals. I'm quite confused about what to do for a hi-hat - I've decided I'll be using Lemon cymbals, and I'll be using it only with VSTs like SD3 and GGD, but I can't decide whether to buy a hi hat cymbal set that comes with a trigger or to buy a cymbal and a separate trigger like Goedrum (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Goedrum-Electr ... 339a476ce7) or Alternate Mode's (https://www.alternatemode.com/alternate ... gers/ehat/)

Not sure which will give me best results with the VSTs and range of hi hat motion. I don't know a whole lot about hihat controllers and settings, so I'd appreciate any advice, thanks!
Ronyd
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Re: Hi-Hat 101

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Well rrv24 depends if you like to DIY an have a little patience. If your going with GeoDrum, there are videos showing you how to install. Pretty simple, but you will have to fuss with edrumin settings and the VST.

Which hihat cymbal set are you talking about that comes complete with trigger installed and controller? Even then you still will have to deal with the module settings.

Here's sal with his setup. He is a very good drummer so definitely works for him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzw1Vk6Eis0

Also, for geodrum install, he does a great job:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQd-Z2Zl5aU


Lemon has the 12" hats that is definitely reasonable for sure . checkout out edrum workshop bout them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuAyEZDWUzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8n2Q7MN1Ug

Maybe others can chime in.

Also, go to vdrums.com forum. Thats the goto for DIY and products. I'm sure you will get many inputs.

Don't jump and do a little more research buddy.

ron
rrv24
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Re: Hi-Hat 101

Post by rrv24 »

Thanks for the information!
I actually did post about this on the vdrums forum, but the moment I mentioned the eDrumin, they directed me here haha

It was the Lemon hats that I was referring to that come with a controller - of course, I'd still need to figure out the settings, but I was hesitant in general about how sticking triggers on a LV cymbal for example, would work out compared to an electronic cymbal that has the triggers built in.
Ronyd
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Re: Hi-Hat 101

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Well thats where diying really comes into play. Youbgotta remember that these companies put lots of r&d effort into their products. They have to in order for these cymbals to be very reliable.

So just sticking a piezo on, like a crash is pretty simple, putting a choke on the crash a little tougher to either make one or buy a membrane and wire it in.

As far as a 3 zone ride cymbal, much more complex.

If you watch the YouTube drummer that does all this with geodrum, mryk membrane switches, you’ll get the kevel of effort if that’s for you. Magnatrack is a viable option also.
Another option is :
https://www.extremedrums.com/
He will do the complete setup for you, and ready to go.

But gotta weigh the cost vs. the lemon.

Hope this helps…
Ronyd
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Re: Hi-Hat 101

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Hmmm not sure why because you mentioned using edrumin they referred you here. Many on vdrums use many different modules. I would do a search on vdrums and I’m aure you will find valuable info on this topic . Thats the best diy forum around.

So i guess your stuck with my opinions lol. You chose the right module. I chose it because my roland modules died and didn’t want to spend all that money for sounds and kits that i never used. We gave best of both worlds- fantastic and inexpensive module and inexpensive vst of your choice.

As far as what you are asking … Well thats where diying really comes into play. You gotta remember that these companies put lots of research and development efforts into their products. They have to in order for these cymbals to be very reliable.

So just sticking a piezo on, like a crash is pretty simple, putting a choke on the crash a little tougher to either make one or buy a membrane switch and wire it in.

As far as a 3 zone ride cymbal, much more complex.

If you watch the YouTube drummer that does all this with geodrum, mryk membrane switches, you’ll get the kevel of effort if that’s for you. Magnatrack is a viable option also.
Another option is :
https://www.extremedrums.com/
He will do the complete setup for you, and ready to go.

But gotta weigh the cost vs. the lemon.

Hope this helps…
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