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eTambourine? Is it possible?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:47 am
by TheJay
I love my eKit but I am missing my tambourine. SD3 has some sounds included, is there a way to modify a real tambourine so that it can be used within SD3?

Ideally there would be something sensing the speed and velocity and whether it is moving up and down on high hat from being lifted or dropped or being hit by sticks.

I would probably end up deadening the metal discs by adding material to them or changing them to plastic or rubber.

Re: eTambourine? Is it possible?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:32 am
by MWJT42
Stick a piezo on it and see! Stick hits won't be a problem at all.

If it's additional to the HH chick sound, easiest way would be to layer that on your VST, or use some additional MIDI transformer plugin to also trigger the note with the foot press.

Re: eTambourine? Is it possible?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:44 am
by TheJay
Thanks for your reply.

I would like to get it working independently from the hi hat and occasionally add onto the hi hat stand.

How would all this be achieved? The velocity and speed would need to affect the sound.

Then let's imagine this was added to a hi hat stand without hats, how do all the up and downs without hits get registered alongside speed and velocity?

I have a spare switch trigger and the up down slider from a Go eDrum hi hat clutch if either of those would be any good. I'm trying to get the most realistic response and avoid lots of clutter.

Re: eTambourine? Is it possible?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:26 pm
by MWJT42
TheJay wrote:Thanks for your reply.

I would like to get it working independently from the hi hat and occasionally add onto the hi hat stand.

How would all this be achieved? The velocity and speed would need to affect the sound.

Then let's imagine this was added to a hi hat stand without hats, how do all the up and downs without hits get registered alongside speed and velocity?

I have a spare switch trigger and the up down slider from a Go eDrum hi hat clutch if either of those would be any good. I'm trying to get the most realistic response and avoid lots of clutter.
For clutter free, and easy removal, you're best bet is still tying into your HH chick sound imo, with a single piezo on the tamb for stick hits. Then use a 2nd switch pedal just for bank switching, to change the foot MIDI note back and forth between HH chick, and layered chick with tamb.

Dialing in a HH foot pedal is hard enough anyway, and that's what it's designed for! Adding a second slider on the same stand, and trying to dial that in too - also when it's going to be removed, is going to be very prone to error.

I would start simplest solution first, (no etamb at all, just adding the sound) and then the pad, and see if that achieves what you're after. If it doesn't feel right, then consider additional 'pedal' controls to interpret the vertical movement.

Re: eTambourine? Is it possible?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:40 pm
by mprinz
MWJT42 wrote:
For clutter free, and easy removal, you're best bet is still tying into your HH chick sound imo, with a single piezo on the tamb for stick hits. Then use a 2nd switch pedal just for bank switching, to change the foot MIDI note back and forth between HH chick, and layered chick with tamb.
That's exactly what I do. With 3 EZDrummer2 VST instances and Plogue Bidule MIDI Routing.
(Don't ask! You know "The journey is the destination", not simply click on to buttons :-)

I always thought of buying a acoustic tamb for my real set.
But - since it's so easy to trigger any sound - I choose this option. Due to this virus, the real set wasn't used anyway.
I wanted to use a trigger bar for other percussive sounds but I purchased a 9 pad - sample pad. So ...
sticking a piezo to a silent tamb for hits with sticks would be my solution - as well.

Greetings