DIY cymbal advice

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Dewaaachner
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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MWJT42 wrote:
Dewaaachner wrote:Ok, so that is a clear "No" to my question :D

Thanks for the additional Info. Much clearer now...

Cheers, Frank
Good stuff. Yeah, a 'No' seemed a bit abrupt and not very useful! Let me know if you have any further questions.
Hey, are you aware of this Keith Raper circuit thread at the VDrums.com-Forum?https://www.vdrums.com/forum/advanced/d ... -s-circuit

I'm not 100% sure, because my e-knowledge is limited, but I understand this as a method to convert a double-piezo & Switch cymbal to a yamaha-3-zone style cymbal.
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AKA Wayne
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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Dewaaachner wrote:
MWJT42 wrote:
Dewaaachner wrote:Ok, so that is a clear "No" to my question :D

Thanks for the additional Info. Much clearer now...

Cheers, Frank
Good stuff. Yeah, a 'No' seemed a bit abrupt and not very useful! Let me know if you have any further questions.
Hey, are you aware of this Keith Raper circuit thread at the VDrums.com-Forum?https://www.vdrums.com/forum/advanced/d ... -s-circuit

I'm not 100% sure, because my e-knowledge is limited, but I understand this as a method to convert a double-piezo & Switch cymbal to a yamaha-3-zone style cymbal.
That’s how to convert a piezo to a switch. I’ve read it is pretty inconsistent but I’ve never tried it. It’s beyond my abilities.
Dewaaachner
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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Yep ... above my abilities too.
I will go for the 2 cable version.

But I thought, I leave the link here for Information and for the more capable guys.

Cheers, Frank
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thenewdrummer
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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MWJT42 wrote:Oh!

That’s ace. No idea how an under switch will work, but very stealthy. Presume it also dampens the cymbal like the rubber edge does. I don’t like the feel of the rubber, or how it plays differently to the bow (although less of a problem with 1.4 separate velocity curves) + my sticks get covered in black.

2 of my Myrk membranes have now failed, so this seems like a suitable upgrade.
There's a demo here. Seem really nice:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=268125588154950
thenewdrummer
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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I just saw that they started to sell their rubber strip that goes under the cymbal.

I'm trying to analyze how they did it.

They seem to use the same membrane that is on the top usually but put it under with the rubber strip. I was wondering if they are only bow and choke but on their website it says it's bow edge choke.

So do they use the same kind of switch under the cymbal and it works?

We can see it on the 2 pictures https://www.ebay.com/itm/324524024936

Myrk said on vdrum that the switch should go to the top so I don't know if if it's possible with his switch.
MWJT42
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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thenewdrummer wrote:I just saw that they started to sell their rubber strip that goes under the cymbal.

I'm trying to analyze how they did it.

They seem to use the same membrane that is on the top usually but put it under with the rubber strip. I was wondering if they are only bow and choke but on their website it says it's bow edge choke.

So do they use the same kind of switch under the cymbal and it works?

We can see it on the 2 pictures https://www.ebay.com/itm/324524024936

Myrk said on vdrum that the switch should go to the top so I don't know if if it's possible with his switch.
Ah brilliant, another of my Myrk switches fell apart today...

Edge / choke are the same thing. Choke is switch contact with little bow piezo input, edge is switch contact with lots of bow piezo input.
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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Interesting. That rubber looks kind of like rubber seal for thresholds or garage doors. I might try that but I would need to first figure out how to remove my edge switch without damaging it. Goedrum has great products but their shipping costs are crazy to the us.

Just curious, how do your myrks keep breaking? I haven’t had on break yet but I’m not a hard hitter or play nearly as much as I’d like to.
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Or maybe this stuff?
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thenewdrummer
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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They confirmed it's the same switch that's under the edge but with the new rubber ring.

I don't know if it's because the 360 design of the switch it's easier to register a hit compared to the 1/4 of the cymbals with myrk.

Yeah the shipping is ridiculous. I would buy a lot of their stuff if it wasn't that expensive.

Though the HH controller I ordered was delivered really fast. Couple of days.
MWJT42
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Re: DIY cymbal advice

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AKA Wayne wrote:
Just curious, how do your myrks keep breaking? I haven’t had on break yet but I’m not a hard hitter or play nearly as much as I’d like to.
They've all sheared where the metal prongs meet the plastic. I can't work out why, as I cable tied them down and used shrink tube to hold them.
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I soldered mine, which may have caused a weakness as I've since read that you can put some sort of prong fitting into them? Myrk's fitting instructions left a lot to be desired.

Most people don't have issues, so I'm happy to explore these again if I get some clarity of best method to fit them.
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