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Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:00 pm
by Rob
Have you ever wanted light hits on the rim trigger sidestick, but have hard hits trigger the Rimshot. While not entirely obvious, this functionality is built into the Rimshot Range Control. Simply dragging the right side of the rimshot range all the way to the far right, and then adjust the bottom part of the rimshot range to set the velocity cutoff between the sidestick and the rimshot. Here's pic of the rimshot range settings that work well for my PD-125.
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Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:51 pm
by Dadwrshpdrum
Do you have a playing example of this? Seems very cool.

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:04 am
by Rob
I'm not sure what you mean. Basically, if you play the rim soft, you'll get sidestick, and if you play it hard, your will get the rimshot. In version 1.4, the velocity of the rimshot is not going to scale as nicely as it should if you are *only* hitting the rim, but in version 1.5 it'll scale a lot better.

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:35 am
by Dadwrshpdrum
Sorry my question was confusing. Is it an actual “soft” rimshot hit (ie rim and head at same time just soft), or is this just hitting the rim by itself?

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:47 am
by Rob
Just the rim by itself. But as I said, it'll work much better in version 1.5. with version 1.4 it works well with my PD-125, but not so well with my DDT.

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:53 am
by Dadwrshpdrum
Rob wrote:Just the rim by itself. But as I said, it'll work much better in version 1.5. with version 1.4 it works well with my PD-125, but not so well with my DDT.
Oh okay. Sorry for another question. Does a regular rimshot (head and rim together) still work the same? Is using this technique is a rimshot just a really hard rim only hit.

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:03 am
by monospace
Rob wrote:But as I said, it'll work much better in version 1.5.
Hmm. Version 1.5 you say? When might we expect to see that?

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:51 am
by Rob
If I scale back some of my plans, I could have a beta version ready in about two weeks.

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:36 pm
by nachocascardo
Rob wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:00 pm
Have you ever wanted light hits on the rim trigger sidestick, but have hard hits trigger the Rimshot. While not entirely obvious, this functionality is built into the Rimshot Range Control. Simply dragging the right side of the rimshot range all the way to the far right, and then adjust the bottom part of the rimshot range to set the velocity cutoff between the sidestick and the rimshot. Here's pic of the rimshot range settings that work well for my PD-125.

alwaysRSonHarHit.png
Are you saying that if i hace 2 zone snare i can assign to the rim 2 sounds, if i hit soft i have a sidestick and if i hit the rim hard, i get a rimshot, i need this!!!! i will test this afternoon

Re: Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:41 pm
by MisterE
nachocascardo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:36 pm
Rob wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:00 pm
Have you ever wanted light hits on the rim trigger sidestick, but have hard hits trigger the Rimshot. While not entirely obvious, this functionality is built into the Rimshot Range Control. Simply dragging the right side of the rimshot range all the way to the far right, and then adjust the bottom part of the rimshot range to set the velocity cutoff between the sidestick and the rimshot. Here's pic of the rimshot range settings that work well for my PD-125.

alwaysRSonHarHit.png
Are you saying that if i hace 2 zone snare i can assign to the rim 2 sounds, if i hit soft i have a sidestick and if i hit the rim hard, i get a rimshot, i need this!!!! i will test this afternoon
Yes, that’s what this means. In this manner you can avoid hits intended to be rim shots from triggering a side stick as long as you hit it with sufficient strength.