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Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:10 am
by thenewdrummer
I've been using ezdrummer for a couple of months but I discovered that the cymbals are single zones and there's no positional sensing.

I discovered that those features are available in AD2. I tried the trial and I liked it. I found edrumin have a better response with it, like the edge and bow of the crash. So I'm about to buy it since there's a special right now.

Is it a good idea or I have better options to use with edrumin? I know there's Superior Drummer but it's a bit pricey for me and I'm a beginner so I don't think I need all the tweaking it allows.

Any thoughts?

Also I was going for the Rock and Metal edition, is it good for someone listening to those genres?

Thanks a lot.

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:01 am
by lalo
I'd stay with Ezdrummer and get an expansion like Modern Metal or Custom shop, the newest expansions have positional sensing on the snare so you'd get an idea of how it sounds, I don't consider the bow on the crashes as essential though, all ezx's only have the edge articulation.

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:11 am
by perceval
Myself, I like having multiple zones on my crashes. Bell, bow and edge.
Not really needed when playing straight forward rock songs, but once a while, I like to indulge myself and play by myself using all those zones.... so nice to play bell on a crash or HH sometimes!

AD2 is a pretty solid VST. Multiple zones, PS... but the HH takes getting used to it, especially coming from Toontrack.
A little like EZDrummer, the sounds are more compressed and processed... which makes playing with an older computer easier.

SD3 is a beast and it can take a while before getting a kit to your liking... so many options and tweaks available, one can get lost in them.

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:21 pm
by thenewdrummer
lalo wrote:I'd stay with Ezdrummer and get an expansion like Modern Metal or Custom shop, the newest expansions have positional sensing on the snare so you'd get an idea of how it sounds, I don't consider the bow on the crashes as essential though, all ezx's only have the edge articulation.
Of course, all the expensions not in special right now :D

Is there a way to see if PS is available before buying it? I don't see it on their page.

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:32 am
by TheStewards
Hmm. I have three ADpaks, and none have multiple zones on the crashes....

I do like AD2, but as I’ve been working to calibrate my eDRUMin, I’ve wondered if it is a limitation, particularly in terms of PS on the snare, which doesn’t seem especially noticeable. Maybe just another sign of me failing to get calibrated.

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:42 am
by monospace
Not sure how positional sensing is implemented in AD2, but be aware that you can achieve PS with the eDRUMin in two ways: by sending CC16 messages, or by sending discrete MIDI notes.

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 am
by MWJT42
monospace wrote:Not sure how positional sensing is implemented in AD2, but be aware that you can achieve PS with the eDRUMin in two ways: by sending CC16 messages, or by sending discrete MIDI notes.
Really? That’s awesome. So, one drum can play at least 4 completely different samples! (inc rim). I wonder how accurately we could put a kick, hh, snare and crash on one trigger.

What’s the resolution on the PS / MIDI notes? Are talking just 3 zones, or potentially Danny Carey Mandala pads? (0-128]

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:51 pm
by thenewdrummer
TheStewards wrote:Hmm. I have three ADpaks, and none have multiple zones on the crashes....

I do like AD2, but as I’ve been working to calibrate my eDRUMin, I’ve wondered if it is a limitation, particularly in terms of PS on the snare, which doesn’t seem especially noticeable. Maybe just another sign of me failing to get calibrated.
Isn't the Fairfax has bow and edge on crashes ?

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:34 pm
by monospace
MWJT42 wrote:So, one drum can play at least 4 completely different samples! (inc rim). I wonder how accurately we could put a kick, hh, snare and crash on one trigger.

What’s the resolution on the PS / MIDI notes? Are talking just 3 zones, or potentially Danny Carey Mandala pads? (0-128]
You can adjust the size of the zones using the slider control. Still only three zones though. But yeah, I suppose in theory you could put a small cocktail kit on a single trigger that way. :ugeek:

Re: Addictive drum vs other VST

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:37 am
by perceval
With 3 zones of PS, one rim click and one rimshot, that's 5 different sounds that can be assigned!

:)