Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

Mylo
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Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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I have Jobeky metal cymbals. These cymbals have a piezo for the bow. It is a pretty typical Roland type setup. The cymbal is very hot over the piezo and very hard to even out. I usually play around the piezo but all it takes is one or two miss hits to ruin a groove.

Would it be possible to add hot spot suppression for cymbals?

(Or if you have suggestions to cool off the trigger I’ll try it.)
Polyphonics
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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+1

Mylo would you join me on an experiment? I'm going to turn my cymbal around and up the gain so that the piezo isnt going to be hit at all and see how it plays.

My theory is that as its metal, the sound waves shouldn't have a problem traveling across the cymbal. The only downside is the one switch is also all the way at the back
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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It might be possible, but I would need need to have a good look at some data, which means I'd need to buy a couple of those cymbals and spend a whole wack of time to maybe come up with a solution.
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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Mylo, would it be possible to take off the piezo on the cymbal, and stick it again, using foam double face tape?

Might help cool it down right over the spot.
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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Polyphonics wrote:+1

Mylo would you join me on an experiment? I'm going to turn my cymbal around and up the gain so that the piezo isnt going to be hit at all and see how it plays.

My theory is that as its metal, the sound waves shouldn't have a problem traveling across the cymbal. The only downside is the one switch is also all the way at the back
I can try it but like you side the switch is not 360 and neither is the choke. I’m not sure this is a viable option for crash or rides. I did however do something similar with my hi-hat. I turned it about 20 degrees so the edge switch still worked but I wasn’t hitting right over the piezo when hitting the bow. The result was satisfying.
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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Rob wrote:It might be possible, but I would need need to have a good look at some data, which means I'd need to buy a couple of those cymbals and spend a whole wack of time to maybe come up with a solution.
If you’re willing to put in the time I may be able to help with a donation of a cymbal. Not sure I can swing two though. What size would be most beneficial?
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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perceval wrote:Mylo, would it be possible to take off the piezo on the cymbal, and stick it again, using foam double face tape?

Might help cool it down right over the spot.
I wish I had one I could sacrifice for a tear down and rebuild but I don’t trust my skill to get it back together properly.
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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Mylo wrote:
perceval wrote:Mylo, would it be possible to take off the piezo on the cymbal, and stick it again, using foam double face tape?

Might help cool it down right over the spot.
I wish I had one I could sacrifice for a tear down and rebuild but I don’t trust my skill to get it back together properly.
Isn't it just a project box held by 2 screws?

Seems pretty straightforward, but if you're not comfortable about this, no worries.
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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perceval wrote: Isn't it just a project box held by 2 screws?

Seems pretty straightforward, but if you're not comfortable about this, no worries.
This is what is under the box. Not a lot of room to work with. I figure I’d destroy such nice work.
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Re: Feature Request: Hot Spot Suppression for Cymbals

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Mylo wrote:
Polyphonics wrote:+1

Mylo would you join me on an experiment? I'm going to turn my cymbal around and up the gain so that the piezo isnt going to be hit at all and see how it plays.

My theory is that as its metal, the sound waves shouldn't have a problem traveling across the cymbal. The only downside is the one switch is also all the way at the back
I can try it but like you side the switch is not 360 and neither is the choke. I’m not sure this is a viable option for crash or rides. I did however do something similar with my hi-hat. I turned it about 20 degrees so the edge switch still worked but I wasn’t hitting right over the piezo when hitting the bow. The result was satisfying.
Oh yes the switches will be pretty useless or nerfed. This is so that we can ascertain if some distance on the peizo does it any good.

I've been debating re-wiring mine so that I've got switches on one end of the cymbal and the pup sitting at the back.

At the moment I'm trying to daisy chain switches to get a 270 edge and bell but I'm not succeeding.. yet
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