using eDRUMin with superior drummer-problems

[Lee]

Greetings,

I am slowly putting together an AtoE conversion kit and recently purchased Superior Drummer3 Orchestral pack, which I want to use with 2 eDRUMin interfaces. With years of using VSTs, keyboard controllers and electronic drum kit experience, I assumed it would be a somewhat “plug & play.” My bad. I need guidance—either directly, or a reference to a Youtube video or a link to documentation—a ‘step-by-step guide’ to help me sort this out.

I. What I have: 4-acoustic toms with JMan’s Stealth ISM6 triggers; a “snare” with a Roland RT-30HR trigger; a bass drum with a UFO Drums eBridge Trigger; 2- eDRUMin trigger interfaces; a MacBook Pro Retina 15” Mid-2015 running Sierra 10.12.6 ; 2-Roland CY-13R cymbals; a MOTU 828x Firewire interface (can be used if necessary to improve latency, etc.).

II. My problems: I need to reassign midi notes, either in SD3 or eDRUMin?? The drum hits do not correspond to the SD3 drums (ex, the bass drum triggers the snare, the 1st tom triggers the bass drum, etc.); some drums trigger nothing. Very low volume when hitting the pads; Unacceptable latency—even after trying lower/lowest buffer settings. No sensitivity (cannot detect ghost notes, buzz roles, double-stroke rolls) and uneven triggering (fast single strokes- all notes not detected).

III. I need step-by-step instructions on how to set this kit up with SD3 using 2 eDRUMins. Do I need to change all the MIDI in (SD3) or out (eDRUMin) settings? What about latency issues? Would it be best to use the MOTU interface (I am now connecting directly to the Mac via USB cables)? How to set-up the MOTU (connectivity)? Tweaks needed to be made with eDRUMin settings? Since I installed all of the triggers, that is a concern, too (maybe I need to adjust the cone heights)?

I need advice on how to sort this out, and troubleshoot each link in the chain (triggers, interfaces, software). Any advice, links to instructional videos, or online instructions (links or PDFs) would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much.

[Rob]

I will give a better answer after the weekend, but have you read the manual? 90% of your questions are answered there.

As for latency, you'll likely need a proper audio interface.

[Rob]

One last note to get you going. Click the 'Drum Map' button in the eDRUMin Control Application.

[Lee]

Thank you. I did read the manual, and tried using "drum map" several times, selecting SD3. I then clicked on each drum and cymbal. I tried it several times. It didn't help!

[Rob]

Perhaps your firmware is not up to date? Is there an orange exclamation mark next the the icon in the bottom right hand corner?

[Rob]

It's also possible that the orchestra pack uses vastly different note assignments. I haven't used that pack before.

[Lee]

I will check again (try map again) this evening. Yes, firmware is up to date, and I was trying with SD3, not the orchestral pack (the orchestral pack might be a challenge to use....I tried and was only able to play bongos). I will try tonight again using map and let you know. But, again, I tried several times with no luck. Thanks

[Lee]

OK...when using map before, I just clicked on each drum/cymbal...my bad. I just tried again, and I had to click on the drum/cymbal, while hitting the corresponding drum/cymbal. It's still fussy (I had to repeat the process several times to finally get the desired result), but I get the idea now. I'm still not getting the articulation/nuance I want, but I was only using the auto calibrate. I think I'll have to dial in each pad adjusting to suite what I want. My bass drum is not triggering properly--several notes are 'silent' (not triggering consistently). That's probably a problem with the trigger? To connect my 2 eDRUMins to my audio interface 1 midi in, I should use a midi merge box, correct? Thanks again. I'll let you know if I have more questions, especially about the bass drum triggering problem.

[Rob]

The maps should work just fine. Maybe you need to take a look at your SD3 MIDI-In/E-Drum settings. Make sure you are using the Default preset otherwise the mappings won't match.

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[Rob]

You don't need to connect your two eDRUMins to the audio interface. Just use the USB. The audio interface is for hearing the sound from SD3.