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The one setting in Superior 3 that changed everything for me...

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:27 pm
by Gemini8026
I have a long history of Edrums, and my biggest gripe has ALWAYS been about hi hat performance.

When I got my Edrumin 3 I tried a VH-10, VH-11, an FD-9, and an a Jobeky trigger, and finally settled on the Lemon 2 piece hi-hat that is essentially a VH-13 clone.

Dialed it in as best I could, and was fairly happy and accepted the performance as is. Occasionally weird behavior on foot splashes and transitions but I just expected that.

Then one day I was playing around in Superior and changed a setting that I thought was right before, but tried something else. In Hi Hat Pedal under Openness transitions, I always had it under E-drum optimized. I assumed this was the ideal for obvious reasons. Then I tried out "Library default" about 2-3 months ago.

All my weird behavior went away. The hi-hat is performing exactly as I had hoped it would. As it is right now under Edrumin 2.3.1, and Superior Drummer 3.3.7 , I have the best e-drum setup I have ever owned/built. I do not understand why changing that setting made all the difference but not my hi-hat just does everything right. I can get good foot clicks, and my transitions from open to closed are smooth AND PREDICTABLE. It's by far the best setup I have played, and I am worried something will change in future updates that could affect this :p

Can someone explain to me why my experience changed so much changing that one setting from Edrum optimized to library default?! Rob?

Re: The one setting in Superior 3 that changed everything for me...

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:53 am
by Rob
I'm not really sure what that options does, but I took a look at my setting and it's set to "Library Default", which is likely the default setting. I'm not entirely sure what the setting does, but as I'm currently recovering from knee surgery, it'll be at least another month before I'm able to play drums again and check.

Re: The one setting in Superior 3 that changed everything for me...

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:25 pm
by dsteinschneider
I'm thinking about replacing my PCY-135 with a lemon two piece hi-hat. Did you get the Lemon 12" or 14" hi-hat kit?

EDIT - on further research I see people in forum posts requesting a 14" version - it appears that might be a recent product release

Re: The one setting in Superior 3 that changed everything for me...

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:17 pm
by Gemini8026
12. It's great. No complaints. Works perfect with the unit and Superior now

Re: The one setting in Superior 3 that changed everything for me...

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:29 pm
by dsteinschneider
Gemini8026 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:17 pm
12. It's great. No complaints. Works perfect with the unit and Superior now
All the reviews I've read are for the 12". Can't see why the 14" would be different but have learned to not make assumptions so hopefully someone will review it. The PCY-135 is playing quite well with the latest eDRUMin firmware and my DIY Hall Effect (Honeywell SS49E)

Re: The one setting in Superior 3 that changed everything for me...

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:12 am
by LooseSends
I have the same setup, only with Addictive Drums 2.

Works great, and I do remember struggling with that occassional "clankiness" when I first tried setting it up. Pretty sure that setting in SD would be a profile curve for how sensitive it goes through the hihat transition phases. So probably the ED one was more of an accelerated or maybe shelved profile that just didn't suit your hat travel range and often would sound like it skips or wasn't generally smooth.

In AD2 there's a levels graph you can tweak where the different openness-phases trigger. I'm sure SD does something similar.

I have it working pretty reliably now although I have some minor gripes about what at least seems to be overly hot/sensitive signal that I have to shelve globally from ED in all my AD2 channels, which kinda squishes my kitpiece workable gain range to half what it should be.