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Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:16 pm
by mpanzer
From what I’ve read so far, Bell Sense does not work well for Lemon cymbals. Are there any plans to add support for them? I currently have an Alesis 16” ride cymbal (from a DM10X kit) and have managed to get Bell Sense working pretty well with it. However, I’d like to replace it with a Lemon 15” ride.

Thanks,
Matt

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:02 pm
by Rob
Hi Matt,

This has been discussed many times on this forum. The simple answer is that adding Bell Sense support for Lemon cymbals is not feasible.

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:03 pm
by mpanzer
Thanks for the quick reply, Rob.
I searched the forum but didn’t find a clear statement saying that. I probably was just looking in the wrong places… 🙂

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:44 pm
by 36KrazyFists
mpanzer wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:16 pm
From what I’ve read so far, Bell Sense does not work well for Lemon cymbals. Are there any plans to add support for them? I currently have an Alesis 16” ride cymbal (from a DM10X kit) and have managed to get Bell Sense working pretty well with it. However, I’d like to replace it with a Lemon 15” ride.

Thanks,
Matt
The Lemon ride's typically have 3 zone dual output though (Unfortunately mine came with a non-working second output...). As long as you don't mind using two inputs on your eDrumin, you should be fine.

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:43 pm
by HCR
I just tried the Lemon 18" ride and had the same issue, with no output from the second output. I returned it through Amazon. Should I assume it was a lemon Lemon? I know the Lemon design works with Roland brains. Hitting it on the bell or bow I got the same note. I would be happy to buy the Lemon if I could just get two outputs working for different notes. If it's working normally should I be able to see a signal from both outputs? I tried it with my eDrumin 4 and my old Alesis DM5. There was no signal from the second output on either.

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:39 am
by Rob
While Roland cymbals output the piezo signal on both outputs, Lemon cymbals do not (at least not my 18" ride). The Ride 2 output only has the bell switch attached to the ring connection, and nothing on the tip. If I connected Ride 2 to separate input on my ED10 and set the pad type to Dual Zone Cymbal, there will be no signal when I hit the pad. However, if I press the bell, the 'AT' in the choke control does indeed light up.

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:53 am
by LooseSends
I have 2 Lemon 18" rides and they work great with 2 inputs for defining ride and bell. However, I think some of the earlier ones got wired wrong.

So just make sure you get the 2-input 3-zone, use stereo cables, and select Roland 3-zone cymbal in ED. Should be good to go from there.

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:41 pm
by Gershy13
Can an adapter cable (custom made or something like this) https://zourman.com/product/roland-atv- ... onnection/ make the Lemon compatible with one input on the edrumin?

Re: Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:44 am
by mpanzer
I’m a little late on this but thank you for the tips!
I have an order for a lemon ride and a couple crashes so I’ll see how it goes!