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Is there a reason for not allowing scan time less than 2ms? I am fighting for fractions of milliseconds because I play through PA sytem and speakers themselves add some latency so every single ms is golden for me. On my Roland TD-25 scantime settings I am succesfull with some pads setting scantime as low as 0,3 - 0,6 ms. I bought expensive RME card because I chase ms. Total measured latency from hitting pad to output from RME soundcard in Addictive Drums 2 (measured with microphone placed at drumhead and compared to output of soundcard to see difference in time response) with scantime at 0,0 (yes ! very playable although not 100% reliable) on PDX100 pad was..... 2.9ms. But extendig scantime to 0.6 makes it consistent with total laency 3.5ms . But with EDrumin whatever I do - connect through physical MIDI in port in my RME or going throug USB Midi of Edrumin, or even triggering TD25 through MIDI cable from EDRUMIN - any of these and other scenarios I can never go lower that 5ms (I also have 2box and ddrum4, also tried various combos) which makes EDRUMIN useless for me, because PA is adding another 2 ms and fast rolls feel sluggish. Is there any reason for not allowing less than 2ms scantime at the risk of mistriggering? It is probably super-easy feature to implement. Make it screen go red that mistriggering is possible for those less aware people if that's why its not possible less than 2 ms.

If your fast rolls feel sluggish, then the issue is with your hold / decay settings.

Maybe wrong word "sluggish", I meant what I hear is behind what I play, I am talking about latency. Forget about fast rolls, that was just example why I chase lower latency, but I do hear that sound coming later even with single hits. Hits recorded through mic and out of module difference in ms. Internal TD25 PDX100 scantime 0,0 playable ! is around 2.5ms. Single hits. Super sharp tight playability. Then TD25 through USB MIDI through RME interface through Addictive Drums 2 I have 2.98 ms average latency (60 hits average), Sharp and tight still, but Edrumin through USB MIDI through Addictive Drums yields 5ms latency and I really do hear those 2 ms extra.

falko76 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:07 pm

Internal TD25 PDX100 scantime 0,0 playable !

Then it's not really 0.0 ms of scan time. Unfortunately it would not be trivial to change the minimum scan time. FYI, a difference in 2ms of latency is equivalent to hearing the sound from an extra 67 cm away. You might consider a good set of headphones if you are truly concerned. But my original reply still stands. Having your decay control dialed in will net you tighter triggering on rolls.

As much as I understand your chasing for every single ms (you're not alone...) and your wish for lower scan times: If you play through a PA with a digital mixer you should consider a direct monitor setup for your drums. I'm using a Motu Ultralite mk5 and use a seperate output of the interface exclusively for my monitor signal. Not routing the signal through the mixer saves about 3ms.

Another crucial point is the speed of sound itself. Even a monitor placed directly at your back will result in a delay of about 3-4ms. That's why I'm using headphones in the studio while recording and a wedge feed by a a seperate direct out in a live situation.