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Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:50 pm
by lalo
I just hooked a Roland VH-14D Digital Hihat directly to my computer to see if, unlike the digital snare or ride, it sends CC messages and you know what? it does! Here you can see it in action: https://youtu.be/eYFM2ZITUak
So if you are lucky to find a VH-14 and want to use it with your edrumin10 it will work perfectly connected to the USB host.

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:30 am
by Rabidreject
That’s really useful knowledge - now I just need to stumble across a reason to be able to spend like £700 on some hats!
DAM I wish I was either rich or a pro drummer that could justify it!
It actually really annoys me that they let the hi hat send CC messages but doesn’t let you for the snare or ride - snare in particular!
Oh well; it’s probably for the best - I’m too cheap to buy Roland anyway - why do you think I went for the edrumin! It’s got to be as close as you can get to all the trigger parameters of a roland module, without all the added stuff I don’t need like….sounds haha. That sounds really counterintuitive doesn’t it? A drummer wanting to buy everything for a kit but not the sounds that come out of it haha you know what I mean tho!

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:37 pm
by Luke_eDW
I was hoping that CC04 open/close would be sent by the unit and it's good to see that is the case.

However, does the digital hi-hat send the head trigger positional CC over the USB connection? It supports positional sensing across the surface of the cymbal with a Roland module. That would be the equivalent CC message to the ones that the snare and ride don't send. I get the feeling the hi-hat won't send this either but it would be good to find out!

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:46 pm
by lalo
Nope, only CC4 for open/close…

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:49 pm
by lalo
Here is another video showing the digital pads connected directly to my computer and everything else to a td-50x, triggering Fields of Rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTDVsK0Imts

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:16 am
by lalo
This is the midi that's being sent by the VH-14 Hats to the outside world.
VH-14D.csv.zip
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Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:27 pm
by jacko
lalo wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:49 pm
Here is another video showing the digital pads connected directly to my computer and everything else to a td-50x, triggering Fields of Rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTDVsK0Imts
thanks for posting this lalo. you say (and seem to show) on the vid that you get positional sensing with the snare. can you confirm that and also talk a little more about it (how many zones on ps, how reliable is the snare triggering, how difficult to set up, connected to computer directly or via hub, etc). The Roland digital snare is probably the one piece of hardware that i would really love to have and you have got me potentially interested in buying one again

thanks

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:40 pm
by lalo
Hi. No, there’s no positional sensing, I need to talk louder and clearer, and of course English is not my first language…

Apart from that, it feels and plays great

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:18 pm
by jacko
thanks for the clarification - appreciated :)

your voice is a bit quiet on the vid but the problem is more likely to be my ears. your English is great

Re: Roland digital pads with edrumin revisited

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:38 pm
by lalo
This is the edrumin10 with digital pads connected to the computer, I've achieved what I wanted, bye TD-50X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJNbjsEVIUw