eDRUMin 10 Revision 2 Information

[Rob]

If you have purchased an eDRUMin 10 after April 1st, be sure to use version 1.4.0.39 or greater which is available from the downloads section. Earlier versions of the Control Application might not have firmware for this device or may contain bugs leading to display issues.

What's new with ED10R2? Like ED4R2, the circuitry for the pedal inputs has been upgraded. Not only will they provide more power for hall effect sensors, measurement precision has also been increased allowing for better tracking of extremely subtle changes in hihat position.

[Gemini8026]

So if we are an original 10 owner, would it be something where we send it back for the upgrade? Curious how much difference it makes? When did the new revision start being made?

[MisterE]

If you are concerned with optimal pedal performance, and if there really is an appreciable difference, you might consider getting a new ED4 for that at only $149?

[Gemini8026]

My edrumin is great for what I have and need. It's only a few months old and I hear there is already a better version

[Rob]

The changes are small and most users wouldn't notice a difference unless they are using a VH-13 or VH-12 or a hall effect sensor that needs power from the pedal input. There are no changes to the trigger circuitry.

And for the record, ED10R2 has a slight advantage over ED4R2 too. Basically I've taken the advances from ED4R2 and then added an opamp buffer to reduce noise and thus improve measurement accuracy. Only hihat controllers that have a very narrow calibration range will see any improvements.

[Gemini8026]

I had hoped to move to a vh13 with the announcement of the new vh-14d.

Any idea what sort of percentage improvement one night see? I'm just curious if I need to offload my current one so in the future I have a better experience?

And I doubt anyone will want to but a used rev1 now...

I'm fairly content but I do feel a little jaded hearing of better hi hat performance considering that's the primary reason I bought one in the first place.

[edrumuser]

Hi all,

i saw this product on a youtube channel and ... i have to buy one of this to expand my kit.

i have some questions before to buy it, just to have a clear idea.

If i buy the drumin 10 today i get the revision 2 ?.
i can use the ATV Artist cymbal 17" fx crash ?. "with holes"
The atv 360 degrees triggering works ?.
i can use the midi out of drumin10 to daisy chain it to a roland td27/50 on channel 11 ?. "standalone"
i already know about the UI, a lot of features and the standalone mode. but i have another questions.
with this module i can use a dual hihat setup with pedal ?, i have understand right ?. "3 in total with the roland module".
the usb port is for firmware upgrade only or i can use it to daisy chain other drumin module ?
why this module have 2 usb port ?. "usb host vertical + USB type B connector"

I saw the "bell 3 zone features" but the video i saw mention a larger area occuped by the bell zone when enabled. in new firmware is implemented a zone threshold for the bell ?. i saw it on a roland crash, the cy15 i think.

just to ask,
actually, to expand my kit, i use splitters but... i noticed a significant reduction on the triggering sensitivity area on the "rim" part "split in head and rim"
with this module i get the full entire area and normal sensitivity if i don't use splitters or a reduction in usable area is there "in caso of roland pda 140f" ?. i don't want to use it with splitters obviously but i don't know if the problem i get is because splitters "drum-tec" or because the roland module know that the RIM part have less area that is possible to trigger and affect my floor tom. i hope this is understandable .

*( if i don't ask too much, someone know the amount of import taxes to italy?*
thank you.

[Rob]

If i buy the drumin 10 today i get the revision 2 ?.

Yes.

i can use the ATV Artist cymbal 17" fx crash ?. "with holes"

Not sure, but I assume yes.

The atv 360 degrees triggering works ?.

Not sure, but I assume yes.

i can use the midi out of drumin10 to daisy chain it to a roland td27/50 on channel 11 ?. "standalone"

I think maybe no? It's possible that Roland has removed this feature in its latest modules.

i can use a dual hihat setup with pedal ?, i have understand right ?. "3 in total with the roland module".

Yes.

the usb port is for firmware upgrade only or i can use it to daisy chain other drumin module ?

The USB Host port is not for firmware updates. It's for daisy chaining USB MIDI devices or additional eDRUMin devices (up to 4 with a USB hub)

why this module have 2 usb port ?. "usb host vertical + USB type B connector"

The USB B is for connecting to a computer (needed for editing settings via the software), and the USB A port is the USB host port.

I saw the "bell 3 zone features" but the video i saw mention a larger area occuped by the bell zone when enabled. in new firmware is implemented a zone threshold for the bell ?. i saw it on a roland crash, the cy15 i think.

Perhaps you are referring to the video from 65 Drums? Since that video was made, the size of the bell zone has been significantly reduced.

i noticed a significant reduction on the triggering sensitivity area on the "rim" part "split in head and rim"

With eDRUMin there is no loss of sensitivity on the rim connection when using splitters and depending on the type of pad you are using, you might be able to get two zones from each mono pad.

*( if i don't ask too much, someone know the amount of import taxes to italy?*

I'm not sure.

[edrumuser]

Hi,
thank you for reply .

yes, i saw the video from 65drums.

i have the roland td27 and this module have midi in and midi out other than usb but i don't know what i have to looking for connect modules on the settings. all i know is that the module you connect on the midi in of the roland modules "excluding td25 and below" have to be set to send/receive midi data from channel 11.

What i want to do is

Setup the zones/triggers/bell on the drumin10 and store it to the unit to use it in standalone mode. disconnect it from the computer and connect it to the midi in of the td27. "with ac adapter obviously"
i know that td27 can be connected to a td17 or td50 via MIDI but i'm not sure on this thing of channel 11.
is possible to set the drumin10 midi out to send data via channel 11 ?.

i hope this works because honestly have 20 years that manufacturer lacks this things. i can wait to upload a video about this module.

[Dadwrshpdrum]

65drums had a great review, but eDrumWorshop has a newer review that may interest you.

https://youtu.be/P3S0IMYA1Zo

If you asking about percussion sets with Roland modules so you can increase the number of pads and zones of a Roland module. Roland removed that feature starting with TD-50 so that means TD-27 and TD-17 does not have the feature. The newer Roland modules are constrained to the total number of zones for whatever single channel of MIDI you choose. So if you set your new Roland module to Channel 11 and eDRUMin to channel 11 you still have the total number of zones in the Roland module as if you had left it in the standard Channel 10.

The eDrumWorskhop has other videos on his channel that goes over this as well. Also I think 65drums or vdrum tips on YouTube has videos talking about the bad decision of Roland dropping percussion sets from their newest flagship modules.

If you are happy with the number of zones in your newer Roland module and you just want the ability to split your two zone Toms into two one zone pads without needing a drum splitter, eDRUMin is a great option.

That is what I’ve done on my TD-17. Before eDRUMin I had split Tom 2 into two single zone Toms (added a fourth Tom), and I was using the cable snake with a drum splitter for Tom 2. Now with eDRUMin I use USB MIDI in on TD-17 from the USB Host Port on eDRUMin 10. All of my Toms are two zone now when I use a VST, but I have an eDRUMin note bank just for TD-17 that goes back to single zone Tom 2 and single zone Tom 4.