velocity correction using positional sensing

DavidCourant
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Re: velocity correction using positional sensing

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Sly wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:49 pm
I feel quite natural to have less volume on the edge of the drum pad. I think it's the same on an acoustic snare drum.
On an acoustic snare the volume is pretty much constant across the drum, and only decreases when hitting really close to edge. On my 14 inch electronic snare, the decrease in volume is already noticeable when I hit a couple of centimeters offcenter. The unevenness in volume is much more pronounced than on an acoustic drum, at least on my snare.
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Re: velocity correction using positional sensing

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DavidCourant wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:24 pm
Sly wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:49 pm
I feel quite natural to have less volume on the edge of the drum pad. I think it's the same on an acoustic snare drum.
On an acoustic snare the volume is pretty much constant across the drum, and only decreases when hitting really close to edge. On my 14 inch electronic snare, the decrease in volume is already noticeable when I hit a couple of centimeters offcenter. The unevenness in volume is much more pronounced than on an acoustic drum, at least on my snare.
Well, that does sound like a hot spot. And I agree with Sly. My drum falls off in volume in a natural when I hit closer to the edge.
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Re: velocity correction using positional sensing

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mprinz wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:43 pm
Oh... this actually a useful advice.
Because, as I said, I adjust the velocity mapping for the non-center sounds and I missed the possibility to also adjust the volumes.
But... monospace, is it the same for you, that you can hardly trigger high velocities for the edge sound?
I would normally recommend people start with adjusting their eDrumIn in order to get the best possible response, and their drum software last, but there are exceptions, especially if your triggers are DIY. My snare is a modified Hart Acu-Snare, with two mono connectors, and I'm just not able to get any response out of the Hotspot Detection algorithm. But like I said, Positional Sensing works great, and by adjusting individual articulation volumes instead, I got a very playable drum. I'm not noticing any significant velocity drop-offs on the edge either. If that becomes a problem, I would suggest tweaking the response curves for each articulation inside of SD3.

Also, when I wrote that I can't get Hotspot Detection to work reliably on my toms, I should have added that that's probably because I like the mesh heads on my toms (not my snare) quite loose, and it's my understanding that the Hotspot algorithm works best with reasonably tight mesh heads.

In the end, for me, it's all about feel and dynamics, and eDrumIn enables me to get the most out of my setup, even though that means I forego some of the available options that Rob crammed into the software. But that's exactly what it makes it so great.
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