Having trouble with ghost notes and pd-125

[Mek]

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Thanks for the great product. I've dug in over the past few days and have it setup with EZDrummer.

I'm having some difficulty with the snare drum (PD-125). I can't seem to get low velocity ghost notes and the low vels trigger a cross stick each time. I played around quite a bit with the 3-zone adjustment and the threshold. I can only get it so that the ghost notes trigger the snare ONLY but then it's insensitive to x-stick. I can't really get a good quite roll or pressed roll or shuffle (Purdie style) ghost notes in there.

I used the PD-125BK preset. Not sure if that's the right one as my Snare only says "PD-125" (no BK).

Also - the side of off center zones of the mesh head trigger x-stick too... any suggestions? Screenshot attached.

Also, what is the best way to save my entire bank for backup? Do I have to export each pad preset individually?

Thanks.

[monospace]

I have a PD-125 as well (the BK is just a color code, mine is the WT) and I have no issues getting ghost notes. Just looking at your screenshot, I would start by making the Scan time longer (until where it dips after those first three peaks) and definitely make the Hold a lot longer (10 to 15ms).

As for the edge of the head triggering rim hits, I've noticed that too and posted about it. This may or may not be PD-125 specific, but one thing you can do is adjust the Rimshot Range control by making the left (olive green) box a lot narrower. That's basically where the cutoff between head and rim happens and it can be very finicky.

Below is a screenshot with my settings. I've also attached a preset if you want to try that out.

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[Rob]

Mek,

The issue with your setting is that your GAIN is far too high, and your HOLD is far too low. After you sort those out, then you'll want to take a look at your RIMSHOT RANGE control.

Rob

[Mek]

Ok thanks a lot. I will try it out when back in the studio tomorrow!

[MisterE]

Mek,

The issue with your setting is that your GAIN is far too high, and your HOLD is far too low. After you sort those out, then you'll want to take a look at your RIMSHOT RANGE control.

Rob

I see this a fair amount - that users are setting gain too high. I find that for most of my devices a proper gain is very near the bottom of the slider. The gain has a lot of headroom. Would it make sense for you to re-scale the slider so that most devices' gain levels would fall near the middle of the slider range so it's more intuitive. Just a thought.

[Rob]

No, I don't think it would. Yamaha pads the need the gain almost at max. Furthermore that slider is controlling a digital potentiometer, so i can't mess with it too much. Perhaps having the velocity curve turned on by default would be a better idea.

[Mek]

I have a PD-125 as well (the BK is just a color code, mine is the WT) and I have no issues getting ghost notes. Just looking at your screenshot, I would start by making the Scan time longer (until where it dips after those first three peaks) and definitely make the Hold a lot longer (10 to 15ms).

As for the edge of the head triggering rim hits, I've noticed that too and posted about it. This may or may not be PD-125 specific, but one thing you can do is adjust the Rimshot Range control by making the left (olive green) box a lot narrower. That's basically where the cutoff between head and rim happens and it can be very finicky.

Below is a screenshot with my settings. I've also attached a preset if you want to try that out.

Screen Shot 2021-06-18 at 11.57.21 AM.png

Thanks a lot for that! It works much better now with those settings, although I'm still really not able to get the most sensitive, repetitive notes, like a pressed roll at low dynamics... a crosstick still comes out. maybe it's just the pd-125 though?

[Mek]

Mek,

The issue with your setting is that your GAIN is far too high, and your HOLD is far too low. After you sort those out, then you'll want to take a look at your RIMSHOT RANGE control.

Rob

I see - I thought gain was just multiplying the output vel for the plugin. I didn't know inter-related with the other settings.

EDIT : Ahhh I see it's the input gain - that makes sense now... thanks!