Supporting Roland digital snare

[gkurtenbach]

Edrumin does a great job on my Roland PD-125 snare however I'm wondering if the Roland digital snare is even better. For example, apparently, the digital snare eliminates the hot-spot and does a better job of capturing all the nuances of playing. So a couple of questions:

I saw on the vdrums forum someone mentioned the possibility of using the digital snare with edrumin. But has anyone tried it yet?

Rob, is this a direction you would support?

Has anyone tried the drum-tec snares with edrumin? I've heard others claim they are very close to the roland digital snare in terms of performance so maybe that would be an upgrade from the PD-125?

Any info or discussion is appreciated!

cheers!

[monospace]

I dunno, I’m using a cheap*ss PD-120 and I get positional sensing, hotspot suppression, plus rim and side stick. Personally I have no desire to drop that kind of $$$ on a proprietary trigger that doesn’t really offer me anything more than what I already get right now.

[perceval]

everybody is talking about the "digital" snare and ride... but are they really digital?

Is there a ADC board in the pads that translates the piezo analog signal to bits of 1 and 0?

Or are they using a USB connector because the are so cheap, and give you 4 wires to carry the analog signal? The are probably cheaper to buy and install than a TTTRS 1/4" plug.

[Sly]

Or are they using a USB connector because the are so cheap, and give you 4 wires to carry the analog signal? The are probably cheaper to buy and install than a TTTRS 1/4" plug.

That's what I thought at the begining, but it actually transmits midi signal over the USB as it can be plugged directly into a computer... Or inside the host port of the eDRUMin 10. It just don't transmit the CC for the PS to be read.
Maybe the signal from the piezo is digitaly transmited as well, but how to read it ?

[vandroiy]

Has anyone tried the drum-tec snares with edrumin? I've heard others claim they are very close to the roland digital snare in terms of performance so maybe that would be an upgrade from the PD-125?

Yes, I have, both the diablo and the drumtec Pro (I currently use). Both are amazing.

Better than ATV.
I have never played the PD-125 nor the digital snare, so no real comparison in this context.

[gkurtenbach]

Has anyone tried the drum-tec snares with edrumin? I've heard others claim they are very close to the roland digital snare in terms of performance so maybe that would be an upgrade from the PD-125?

Yes, I have, both the diablo and the drumtec Pro (I currently use). Both are amazing.

Better than ATV.
I have never played the PD-125 nor the digital snare, so no real comparison in this context.

thanks for the info! Yes, it would be good to compare but its good to know you are positive about drum-tec snares and they are running with edrumin.

Does the drumtec pro perform better than the diablo?

[hang12]

My new 10 channel eDRUMin is on its way, yay! I'm using a full TD-20 circa kit, with a few 3 zone ride cymbals (one feeding a TD-10). After reading many of the Vdrum forum posts on the internet, I decided to give the triggering portion of the PD-125 snare yet one more shot with the eDRUMin. I've tried mostly unsuccessfully to use various additional side triggers over the years in order to get a decent cross-stick trigger, vs rim shot, without misfires. I am currently using the Roland BT-1 mounted on the snare, but again it's always a case of random (or straight up) false triggering/cross talk no matter the settings on the TD-20 (or TD-10). Hopefully the eDRUMin will solve much of the misery, with or without the BT-1 on the snare.
Even if, after all of the sensitivity adjustments, maybe the last ditch effort of re-mapping note numbers (for x-stick vs rim shot) on the fly with the eDRUMin feature might work as well. I have also used other TD modules and a TMC-6, so I've spent a lot of time tweaking these params.

I was watching this video on the digital snare USB output, where it's compared with, and without, using it interfaced to either a TD-27 or TD-50:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hn_ZgE ... e=emb_logo

I am curious whether the Roland digital snare output might be utilized via the (2nd) USB on the eDRUMin, with all of the eDRUMin's processing. The parameters that are missing (listed at ~8:38 of the video) are when the digital snare is not interfaced with the TD-27 or TD-50 modules - the eDRUMin parameter feature set would seem to fill those application gaps easily..

I am using SD3 in home studio only. Hopefully a future update to the eDRUMin (or another similarly priced module) could save me big $ on an unnecessary purchase of the newer Roland TD-27 module, simply in order to get easy cross-stick functionality and less false triggering using the Roland digital snare, if I was able to replace my PD-125 with an upgrade of the PD-140DS. Ride cymbal enhancements would be great too...but the snare is most important.

[monospace]

One easy way to approach sidestick vs rimclick on the eDRUMin is to set up the corresponding MIDI mapping in the eDRUMin‘s Note Banks, and switch between those banks with a $10 foot switch.