Bell Sense for Lemon Cymbals

[mpanzer]

From what I’ve read so far, Bell Sense does not work well for Lemon cymbals. Are there any plans to add support for them? I currently have an Alesis 16” ride cymbal (from a DM10X kit) and have managed to get Bell Sense working pretty well with it. However, I’d like to replace it with a Lemon 15” ride.

Thanks,
Matt

[Rob]

Hi Matt,

This has been discussed many times on this forum. The simple answer is that adding Bell Sense support for Lemon cymbals is not feasible.

[mpanzer]

Thanks for the quick reply, Rob.
I searched the forum but didn’t find a clear statement saying that. I probably was just looking in the wrong places…

[36KrazyFists]

From what I’ve read so far, Bell Sense does not work well for Lemon cymbals. Are there any plans to add support for them? I currently have an Alesis 16” ride cymbal (from a DM10X kit) and have managed to get Bell Sense working pretty well with it. However, I’d like to replace it with a Lemon 15” ride.

Thanks,
Matt

The Lemon ride's typically have 3 zone dual output though (Unfortunately mine came with a non-working second output...). As long as you don't mind using two inputs on your eDrumin, you should be fine.

[HCR]

I just tried the Lemon 18" ride and had the same issue, with no output from the second output. I returned it through Amazon. Should I assume it was a lemon Lemon? I know the Lemon design works with Roland brains. Hitting it on the bell or bow I got the same note. I would be happy to buy the Lemon if I could just get two outputs working for different notes. If it's working normally should I be able to see a signal from both outputs? I tried it with my eDrumin 4 and my old Alesis DM5. There was no signal from the second output on either.

[Rob]

While Roland cymbals output the piezo signal on both outputs, Lemon cymbals do not (at least not my 18" ride). The Ride 2 output only has the bell switch attached to the ring connection, and nothing on the tip. If I connected Ride 2 to separate input on my ED10 and set the pad type to Dual Zone Cymbal, there will be no signal when I hit the pad. However, if I press the bell, the 'AT' in the choke control does indeed light up.

[LooseSends]

I have 2 Lemon 18" rides and they work great with 2 inputs for defining ride and bell. However, I think some of the earlier ones got wired wrong.

So just make sure you get the 2-input 3-zone, use stereo cables, and select Roland 3-zone cymbal in ED. Should be good to go from there.