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TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:33 pm
by Dadwrshpdrum
Hi, new eDRUMin 10 owner. It just arrived in the mail yesterday. I currently have modified TD-17 KVX kit with some extra and upgraded pads. My plan is to use eDRUMin to trigger EZDRUMMER2 and SSD5.5 on my MacBook Pro. However, most of of the time I’m practicing my laptop is not available or cumbersome to set up. So I want to continue to use my TD-17 most of the time.

When I ordered eDRUMin my original plan was to use the MIDI out from TD-17 to MIDI in of eDRUMin for the majority of existing pads. Then I would connect an extra crash cymbal and a PDX-8 (3rd rack tom) I have to the eDRUMin. Plus I wanted to connect my PD-125BK snare pad (with potential for positional sensing, just not with TD-17) to the eDRUMin. I was planning to use a stereo splitter (not the splitter kind used for splitting to left/right, but the kind that turns a single headphone jack into two headphone jacks). That way the TD-17 still had the snare signal (I would shut off the MIDI notes) when not using a VST, and the EDRUMin would have the same signal for when I was using a VST. Finally I would connect the eDRUMin USB to the laptop to trigger a VST. Before the eDRUMin arrived I was experimenting and the TD-17 had significant cross talk issues with the third rack Tom and less so on the extra crash cymbal.

Now I’m considering removing the TD-17 cable snake all together and have all my pads connected directly to eDRUMin 10. Then slave my TD—17 to the eDRUMin for the times I’m not using a VST.

However I have two questions that didn’t seem to be completely answered on the website description of the eDRUMin 10.

1) If I set my TD-17 USB DRIVER MODE to GENRIC and attach the eDRUMin 10 HOST USB port to the TD-17 will the HOST port send MIDI out to TD-17? eDRUMWORKSHOP on YouTube had a video with how to do this, but he used a different MIDI to USB device than an eDRUMin 10.
2) Will the HOST USB port on eDRUMin receive power from the TD-17 or will I need an external power source for eDRUMin 10? Note: when the TD-17 is slaved it’s because the eDRUMin 10 will not be connected to a computer.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:24 am
by Rob
Dadwrshpdrum wrote:1) If I set my TD-17 USB DRIVER MODE to GENRIC and attach the eDRUMin 10 HOST USB port to the TD-17 will the HOST port send MIDI out to TD-17? eDRUMWORKSHOP on YouTube had a video with how to do this, but he used a different MIDI to USB device than an eDRUMin 10.
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Yes, the eDRUMin will send MIDI over the HOST port to the TD-17.
Dadwrshpdrum wrote:2) Will the HOST USB port on eDRUMin receive power from the TD-17 or will I need an external power source for eDRUMin 10? Note: when the TD-17 is slaved it’s because the eDRUMin 10 will not be connected to a computer.
No. A USB host port cannot receive power, it can only deliver power.

For you setup, I suspect the easiest thing to do is to connect the TD-17 to the eDRUMin 10 Host port. The host port will be able to supply up to 500 mA of power to the TD-17. I'm not entirely sure if the TD-17 will allow you to trigger sounds from the USB port though, but I'm really curious to find out. If that works, then you can use both modules to trigger sounds on the TD-17, and at the same time trigger sounds in EZDRUMMER.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:40 am
by Dadwrshpdrum
Thanks for info. I’ll give it a try and let you know how it goes. Thank you.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:58 pm
by Dadwrshpdrum
Hi, I set up the eDRUMin and connected it to the TD-17. The TD-17 is set to generic USB driver mode (USB MIDI only). I used the Roland MIDI drum map on all of the pads. I hit a pad (only connected to eDRUMin) and no sound from TD-17. When I disconnect the TD—17 from the eDRUMin I do have an alert message on the TD-17 that says MIDI offline.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:28 am
by Rob
Let me do some testing this morning to make sure the ED10 is sending MIDI correctly.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:41 am
by Rob
I did a really quick test and It looks like there's probably an issue. Should probably be an easy fix.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:47 am
by Rob
I take it back. It looks like the MIDI is being sent. I'll do some more thorough testing.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:18 am
by Dadwrshpdrum
Okay thanks. I believe I have my module set up correctly for USB MIDI in. I asked on the vdrum forum for help on module settings.

Next I was going to try to use my DAW to send MIDI to TD—7 from eDRUMin MIDI, but I haven’t had the chance. I use Abelton, but I’m a novice. I’ll Let you know if something works.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:42 am
by Rob
I'm definitely seeing some issues. Give me a couple days.

Re: TD-17 slave module to eDRUMin 10

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:44 am
by Dadwrshpdrum
Okay thanks!