Two zone snare piezo rim

[Rob]

That's coming back to switch sensitivity issues. eDRUMin is much more sensitive than most modules. I should have a metal cymbal coming in the mail. When it arrives I'll re-evaluate the default sensitivity settings.

[Mylo]

That's coming back to switch sensitivity issues. eDRUMin is much more sensitive than most modules. I should have a metal cymbal coming in the mail. When it arrives I'll re-evaluate the default sensitivity settings.

According to tracking it is is Taiwan. Shouldn’t be much longer.

[TheJay]

Thanks Rob.

[Rob]

I know you had Bell mistriggering issues, but how was the edge switch. With my Jobeky cymbal from Mylo, I find that the edge switch is not sensitive enough. With some tweaks to the firmware, I can get much better edge triggering. I'm wondering if I should be adding a switch sensitivity control for my metal cymbal pad type. Your thoughts?

[Mylo]

I know you had Bell mistriggering issues, but how was the edge switch. With my Jobeky cymbal from Mylo, I find that the edge switch is not sensitive enough. With some tweaks to the firmware, I can get much better edge triggering. I'm wondering if I should be adding a switch sensitivity control for my metal cymbal pad type. Your thoughts?

That would be very useful I think.

On these metal cymbals you have to hit the edge firmly to get the edge switch to activate. In a normal crash of the edge that isn’t a problem. But if you try to do an edge swell it doesn’t work very well. When doing an edge swell the bow articulation plays first because you are hitting the edge too lightly for the edge switch to trigger. Eventually the edge is hit hard enough at the end of the swell that the edge articulation kicks in. Because of all that you have to resort to tricks to get swells to sound proper. None of the tricks are good trade-offs. Especially if the bow and edge articulations aren’t similar sounding.

Essentially when it comes to the edge there really is no way to get dynamic. It is either on or off.

That is my experience anyway. You might be seeing something totally different looking at the electronics of it all.

I wish I had a FIELD I could send you. All I have is an older generation 2-zone 12” splash. I’m not sure that would help you much.

[Rob]

Okay. Will do. Unfortunately I'm sure that after I finish the Metal 3 zone pad type, I'm going to have to add a dual zone metal pad pad type as well.

[Mylo]

Okay. Will do. Unfortunately I'm sure that after I finish the Metal 3 zone pad type, I'm going to have to add a dual zone metal pad pad type as well.

For the Jobeky’s I don’t see much difference between the 2-zone and 3-zone design. The 2-zone looks exactly like a 3-zone but doesn’t have a bell piezo. Here’s some pictures. You can see the edge switch is the same. And no piezo on the bell. And single input.

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[Rob]

I'm sure there's very little difference. It's just annoying that I need to add two pad types instead of one.

[Mylo]

I'm sure there's very little difference. It's just annoying that I need to add two pad types instead of one.

What worries me a little is the FIELD design is so much more robust. They have 360 triggering and choke. I don’t think the FIELDs were as hot either. Their newer cymbals have touch choke. Touch the cymbal anywhere and it chokes. I don’t know if that allows you to play muted sounds like the Roland digital ride though. It would be interesting to see what happens on the FIELD if you hit it while touching it.

You may be designing all this on a cymbal that isn’t that well made. But then again Jobeky’s design is very similar to everyone else except FIELD.

[Rob]

I've actually got that Jobeky triggering quite nicely now. I've got a few special tweak to compensate for irregularities due to the high frequency content of metal vibrations. Other than the extremely obvious hotspot right over the piezo, I'm pretty pleased with its performance.