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Good snare to buy.
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:24 pm
by thenewdrummer
I've never been able to dial correctly my A2E snare with edrumin. I've tried different trigger brands and always got sub optimal results (maybe I don't know what I do)
So I decided that's it's enough with A2E and would like to buy a pre built electronic snare that would work well with the eDRUMin.
Do you have any good recommendations? I would like it to be at least 13inch and have a kind of acoustic look to fit with the rest of my kit.
Thanks a lot.
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:51 am
by Samsquamch
I used many pads from diy to Pintech, mylar, mesh rubber etc. with DSPTRIGGER and I finally gave up this summer during an important recording event and did some quick, intense research and bought a nice used Roland PDX12 and my world TOTALLY changed. The 2 drawbacks for you is that it's 12" and not drum-looking, but it triggers center and rimshots beyond compare. It doesn't have positional sensing due to the offset piezo.
The sensitivity and dynamics is scary. I can do the faintest whip-cream buzz roll and it picks up EVERY single hit, verified by zooming in on the recorded MIDI in Reaper, just completely unreal. The rimshots feel great and the hoop-height is perfect. I use it on a pro snare stand for solid response and zero unit bounce. I'd never mount a snare pad on the side ever btw for anything with finesse and precision. Rudimental chopping on this with DSPTRIGGER using the free Slate 5.5 or any other quality VSTi and a low-latency interface is VERY authentic. Free-form jazz with Buddy's busy left hand is perfect also.
In my opinion, even at retail (which it is one of the cheapest pro-level pads), this pad is a total bargain for the perfect size and performance. It works perfectly and plays very realistically. For a mesh pad, tensioned fairly tight, it feels great for being a pad also. I don't have eDRUMin yet but it's gonna trigger on that beautifully too I'm told. I hope you look into it.
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:20 am
by thenewdrummer
Samsquamch wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:51 am
I used many pads from diy to Pintech, mylar, mesh rubber etc. with DSPTRIGGER and I finally gave up this summer during an important recording event and did some quick, intense research and bought a nice used Roland PDX12 and my world TOTALLY changed. The 2 drawbacks for you is that it's 12" and not drum-looking, but it triggers center and rimshots beyond compare. It doesn't have positional sensing due to the offset piezo.
The sensitivity and dynamics is scary. I can do the faintest whip-cream buzz roll and it picks up EVERY single hit, verified by zooming in on the recorded MIDI in Reaper, just completely unreal. The rimshots feel great and the hoop-height is perfect. I use it on a pro snare stand for solid response and zero unit bounce. I'd never mount a snare pad on the side ever btw for anything with finesse and precision. Rudimental chopping on this with DSPTRIGGER using the free Slate 5.5 or any other quality VSTi and a low-latency interface is VERY authentic. Free-form jazz with Buddy's busy left hand is perfect also.
In my opinion, even at retail (which it is one of the cheapest pro-level pads), this pad is a total bargain for the perfect size and performance. It works perfectly and plays very realistically. For a mesh pad, tensioned fairly tight, it feels great for being a pad also. I don't have eDRUMin yet but it's gonna trigger on that beautifully too I'm told. I hope you look into it.
Thanks a lot for the review, I will think about it if the look is ok for me.
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:28 pm
by MisterE
You might also look at the ATV three-trigger 13" snare - the ATV XD-P13. It's only $159 and should trigger as well as the Roland. I have one and have been impressed.
https://edrumcenter.com/collections/atv ... -snare-tom
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:43 am
by thenewdrummer
Thanks. But still not looking as an acoustic
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:22 am
by perceval
How about the new Yamaha mesh snare?
Looks more "acoustic".
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/ ... 48QAvD_BwE
Looks like a similar contraction as the ATV with 3 cones.
They also offer positional sensing, I believe, with the new Yamaha modules. Maybe they reversed the process, where Roland was expecting a strong center signal, and more tamed towards the edges to provide positional sensing.
Maybe Yamaha is looking at stronger signals from the sides and more tamed towards the center to add CC16 data to the hits.
If that is the case, I wonder why no one ever thought of that to go tell Roland where to put their PS patent! ha ha!
Rob... how about reversing CC16 on pads with piezos all around, instead of one centered piezo? Would that work?
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:55 am
by MisterE
thenewdrummer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:43 am
Thanks. But still not looking as an acoustic
Great point. I missed the acoustic-like preference you mentioned.
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:15 pm
by Rabidreject
I get really confused about these snare pads with three cones in... I don't get it.
Does it use more than one cable like a 3 zone ride or are they all wired together onto one jack?
It's a really cool idea I haven't seen that much.
Does the ed10 take the roland digital pads at all? Maybe in the USB host port if they use a USB...iv not actually looked at it tbh lol just seen that guy on the e drum workshop on pootube
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:59 pm
by perceval
the 3 piezo are wired together. They share the load, so it is not a center very hot point, but spread between all 3. Supposed to help with hotspot issue, but throws out PS.
Re: Good snare to buy.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:10 pm
by queck3927
thenewdrummer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:24 pm
I've never been able to dial correctly my A2E snare with edrumin. I've tried different trigger brands and always got sub optimal results (maybe I don't know what I do)
So I decided that's it's enough with A2E and would like to buy a pre built electronic snare that would work well with the eDRUMin.
Do you have any good recommendations? I would like it to be at least 13inch and have a kind of acoustic look to fit with the rest of my kit.
Thanks a lot.
Have you tried Drone Halo triggers? They're quite similar to a PDX-12 pad and The eDrum Workshop highly recommends them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKcHINqsMvM
You can message him on ebay
kittoys-2012 to order.
You can also try Diamond Electronic Drums if you want a centre-mounted trigger.