Good snare to buy.

mprinz
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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I am wondering why these two are not meantioned already:

drum-tec or Jobeky.

Samsquamch wrote:
Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:51 am
The sensitivity and dynamics is scary. I can do the faintest whip-cream buzz roll and it picks up EVERY single hit, verified by zooming in on the recorded MIDI in Reaper, just completely unreal. The rimshots feel great and the hoop-height is perfect.
I got this with my DIY drum-tec 10 spoke trigger style snare. I bought that here in Germany from a hobby A2E freak, who knows what he does.
I mean, it's a long story. In the end, now, I am very happy this that thing and the two 10kohm otentiometers.
I also had the ATV 13" pad, and the DDT pad but I WANTED to try that positional sensing having SD3 and the eDrumIn.
I did not try a drum-tec snare, but I think it can hardly be better.

I bought the Jobeky snare, but that was - nahh - I ripped everthing apart,
I adjusted trigger bars, tried different cones, piezos, meshheads.
I think, now I would cool it down with 2 pots also and then it could be fine.
Now that thing it's getting dusty here. This just has 4 spokes.
I will try to get an original Jobeky trigger cone, but everything together and sell it again.

https://jobekydrums.co.uk/product/prest ... onic-drum/

https://www.drum-tec.de/drum-tec-pro-sn ... -5-5-black

Greetings

Manuel
MisterE
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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mprinz wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:02 pm
I am wondering why these two are not meantioned already:

drum-tec or Jobeky.
Some things take time...
OftheSeven
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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MisterE wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:28 pm
You might also look at the ATV three-trigger 13" snare - the ATV XD-P13. It's only $159 and should trigger as well as the Roland. I have one and have been impressed.
https://edrumcenter.com/collections/atv ... -snare-tom
Do you use this with SD3? Are you able to achieve positional sensing with the adjustments in eDrumin?

I have an A2E, 14" wood snare with Jobeky cross-bar center trigger. It's not as sensitive as I'd like but PS works pretty well.
Looking for an upgrade that's not too expensive. Thx
mprinz
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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No, sir, due to the three outside trigger cones you won't get positional sensing.
mprinz wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:02 pm
I also had the ATV 13" pad, and the DDT pad but I WANTED to try that positional sensing having SD3 and the eDrumIn.
Maybe should look for the DDT MS-140. I forgot to mention this. With it's center cone trigger system it gives you positional sensing.
I find it acoustically a bit loud and switched to my Jobeky/DIY snares.

http://www.digitaldrummermag.com/Latest ... -spot.html

It seems that it's hard to find. Where are you? I could offer you my Jobeky snare... I need to stick a new cone I guess and
then...
Retro Rambler
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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FWIW I found that by switching out the mesh head my snare came with (a 682 Drums 3-ply, on the lower end of the 3-ply quality spectrum by all reputable reviewers) with a Drum-Tec Real Feel, the positional sensing and other triggering characteristics of my snare got a LOT better.

Only to make the point that, the head also matters a lot.
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mprinz
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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Ok, a got a SPIKE on it, but yesterday I thought... hmmm maybe I should try a real feel or at least design pro.
I will check this. :-)
Retro Rambler
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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I had also seen a similar type discussion of PS not working so well in an older vdrums post. This was where the recommendation came from for me. I didnt' seem to have much range/resolution in what I could tune as the PS zone with the software, even though my snare did have a center mounted trigger, at least with the original head

So it was a good surprise to see a lot better response after changing heads.
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OftheSeven
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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mprinz wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:15 pm
No, sir, due to the three outside trigger cones you won't get positional sensing.
mprinz wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:02 pm
I also had the ATV 13" pad, and the DDT pad but I WANTED to try that positional sensing having SD3 and the eDrumIn.
Maybe should look for the DDT MS-140. I forgot to mention this. With it's center cone trigger system it gives you positional sensing.
I find it acoustically a bit loud and switched to my Jobeky/DIY snares.

http://www.digitaldrummermag.com/Latest ... -spot.html

It seems that it's hard to find. Where are you? I could offer you my Jobeky snare... I need to stick a new cone I guess and
then...
Other than the acoustically loud aspect, did you find the MS-140 more accurate/sensitive than the Jobeky snare?
I have a DIY A2E snare that uses the Jobeky cross-bar and it's fine but curious if the DDT is better? Thx
mprinz
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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Hi OftheSeven,

hmmm, to be honest, as I remember it was not even better than the PS performance of the Jobeky.
BUT, I was at the beginning of my PS, DIY learning curve.

I got here a 12" Lemon 45$ snare pad and ... it's ridiculous, it performes the PS more consistent than
my DIY snare. And it has got a Jobeky like rod type trigger.

I will write to Jobeky - one more - if I could purchase only their trigger rods and piezos and
gonna put all together again. And I think it might be better than my DIY 10 spoke system.
Actually I bought it from an A2E nerd but he uses strange cones and decouplers.
It's quite sensitive but, sure, but even with a "real feel" drum-tec meshhead still not THAT awesome in PS.

In summary, I would got for the Jobeky snare again. Now I know how to cool it down and it would be fine.
MisterE
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Re: Good snare to buy.

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OftheSeven wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:58 pm
MisterE wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:28 pm
You might also look at the ATV three-trigger 13" snare - the ATV XD-P13. It's only $159 and should trigger as well as the Roland. I have one and have been impressed.
https://edrumcenter.com/collections/atv ... -snare-tom
Do you use this with SD3? Are you able to achieve positional sensing with the adjustments in eDrumin?

I have an A2E, 14" wood snare with Jobeky cross-bar center trigger. It's not as sensitive as I'd like but PS works pretty well.
Looking for an upgrade that's not too expensive. Thx
To be clear, the only trigger configuration that supports positional sensing is a center-mounted one. So the ATV three-trigger design will not provide PS. Rob may be able to provide PS with Yamaha silicone pads, but I'm not sure that he has had time for that just yet.
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